The Great Convergence

A quiet handshake inside an embassy set off alarm bells, but the real story runs deeper than a single meeting. We trace how a convicted spy, a donor class with outsized leverage, and decades of war-time consensus created a brittle status quo—and why people on the populist left and nationalist right are beginning to push against the same walls. The cracks are showing in polling, policy, and pulpits, and we follow those lines to their source.

We start with what happened and why it matters: Jonathan Pollard’s legacy, the optics and substance of a private meeting on foreign soil, and the double standards that shape our reactions depending on which flag is involved. From there we turn to a measurable drift in public opinion among younger conservatives, and the moral shock that Gaza sparked across progressive circles. The thread connecting both is a weariness with endless wars, donor demands that override voter priorities, and a media ecosystem that censors whistleblowers and skeptics with the same blunt tools.

The conversation then goes where few shows do: theology. We revisit centuries of Christian teaching on covenant, temple, and fulfillment, and contrast it with modern dispensational claims that fused spiritual blessing to unconditional political allegiance. That shift didn’t just change sermons; it reshaped policy, making dissent feel like betrayal. When the spell breaks, new coalitions become possible. The left may chase labor power and health care, the right may pursue industrial policy and family protections, but both see the same obstacle—foreign capture of domestic decision-making.

Call it the Great Convergence: different roads, same destination. End donor gatekeeping, bring troops home, restore national sovereignty, and let citizens argue—honestly—about the future they want. If this resonates, share the episode, leave a review, and hit subscribe so we can keep building a space where hard questions get straight answers.

Chapters

• 0:00 Pollard Meeting Revealed
• 1:50 Consequences Of Espionage
• 3:20 Donors, Politics, And Influence
• 5:10 Public Opinion Shifts
• 6:30 Populist Left Meets Nationalist Right
• 8:30 Theology And Israel Reconsidered
• 11:10 Shared Enemies, Different Tools

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

The Great Convergence. This week we learned that in July of this year, United States Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, held a warm private meeting with Jonathan Pollard inside of the American Embassy in Jerusalem. For those of you who don't know, Jonathan Pollard is the spy who spent 30 years in federal prison for stealing America's most classified secrets and handing them to Israel. Pollard was convicted of espionage for passing massive volumes of classified material to Israel. He served 30 years and was paroled in 2015 and moved to Israel in 2020. The damage he did was severe. A 1987 declassified CIA assessment called it, quote, one of the most harmful cases involving an ally. So what was his justification for this behavior? He claimed it was, quote, a lifetime of anti-Semitic treatment. As always, they cry out in pain as they steal your classified intel for their ethnic homeland. It's worth noting that after his release, Trump donor Miriam Adelson personally flew Pollard to Israel on her private jet. This is the same Adelson family that bankrolls Republican campaigns, including President Trump's, and very clearly dictates the primary policy agendas of the Republican Party. Netanyahu greeted Pollard on the tarmac, where he kissed the ground upon landing and then said, quote, we are ecstatic to be home at last after 35 years. Pollard has also declared his loyalty to, quote, the land of Israel and the people of Israel without exception. Now they all think this way, Pollard is just honest enough to say the quiet part out loud. Our ambassador, who was supposed to represent you and me, shook his hand on foreign soil while keeping the meeting off his official schedule. The White House was blindsided, the CIA station chief was alarmed. Even Trump's press secretary admitted that they had no idea. If this were Russia, we would be at DEF CON 1 right now. If this were China, we would have congressional hearings for a year. But this is Israel, and we are supposed to nod along and say, well, it's complicated. But we all know that it's not complicated. Israel is not an ally, it is a landlord, and the rent is due in American blood and treasure. Thankfully, the American people are waking up to this. The Pew research numbers from March of this year prove it. Half of Republicans under 50 now view Israel unfavorably, up from 35% in 2022. That is a 15-point swing in three years among the most historically pro-Israel cohort in America. Republicans over 50 still support at about 77% approval, but my generation, the ones who fought the wars and pay the taxes and read more than fundraising mailers, we are done with this nonsense. Done. This revolt is coming from both directions at once. The populist left and the nationalist right are arriving at the same destination through different roads. And that is what terrifies the establishment. The Bernie Bro progressives and the anti-war remnant on the left that never forgave Hillary Clinton were horrified by Gaza. They saw children in rubble, journalists shot in cold blood, churches bombed, and they felt righteous fury. For them, this is about empire and colonialism and the military industrial complex feeding bodies into a machine that grinds them into stock dividends. On this core point, the point that bombing kids is morally wrong and we should not pay for it, we agree. But on the Christian nationalist right, the break goes deeper. It's not just political, it's theological. For a century we have been fed a lie from pulpits that we should have known better. They told us that God's covenant with Israel was eternal and unconditional, that 1948 was a prophetic fulfillment, and that blessing the modern state of Israel was the same as blessing Abraham. That if we did not, we would be cursed. It turns out all of this was nonsense, of course. 1900 years of Christian Orthodoxy, but more importantly, God's word says so. In the year seventy AD, the Roman legions under Titus burned Jerusalem to the ground. Most Christians know nothing about this topic, but it's one of the most important moments in all of human history, second only to the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The temple, which was the heart of the old covenant, was destroyed so thoroughly that the gold melted into the cracks between the stones. The priests were slaughtered, the genealogies that proved tribal lineage were erased forever. And Hebrews 8 13 is very explicit, quote, by calling this covenant new, he has made the first one obsolete, and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear. And disappear it did. The temple disappeared in fire and blood because the reality it pointed to had already arrived, which of course was Jesus Christ. For nineteen centuries, every Christian knew this. Augustine taught it, Calvin preached it, your great grandfather's pastor believed it. The promises to Abraham were fulfilled in Christ and extended to all who are in Christ, Jew and Gentile alike, not by DNA, not by geography, but by faith alone. Galatians three twenty nine could not be clear. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise. The church fathers did not pray for a rebuilt temple. They celebrated its destruction as God's judgment and Christ's vindication, because Christ is the land, Christ is the temple, Christ is the promise. Everything else is sand. Then came the twentieth century. Dispensationalism, a heresy cooked up by John Nelson Darby in the eighteen thirties, which was mainstreamed by Schofield Bibles and the Left Behind novels in our own time. Pastors abandoned nineteenth centuries of doctrine to preach a new gospel. We're supposed to believe that God pressed pause on the church, restarted the clock for ethnic Jews, and commands us to fund a secular, Christ denying state or face hell. Never mind that it aborts babies and hosts pride parades. Never mind that its leaders literally spit on the cross. We were told to pledge allegiance to a foreign flag or be cursed. We were deceived, but thankfully that deception is ending. Both the populist left and the nationalist right are discovering the same enemy through different lenses. Both see an economic system that farms working class people for debt while global elites get rich on our backs. The left wants a twenty five dollar minimum wage. We want tariffs that bring factories back home. These are different mechanisms, but they're talking about the same fire. The current order serves capital and foreign interests, not our people. We can argue about solutions after we agree on the enemy. Both of us also despise foreign wars. The left march against Iraq. The right fought it and came back broken. Both were lied to by the same neocons, who now want war with Iran, using Israel as the tripwire. Both of us want the war machine snout pulled from the trough. We want our troops home and the foreign wars end it. Both of us also have felt the boot of censorship. When the left spoke up about Gaza, they got shadow banned. When we questioned Christian Zionism, we got deplatformed. Same algorithm, same masters. The ADL smears them as anti Semites just as they do us. We both want our voices back. We both want to name who is really running the show here. Now both of us also hate the corporate oligarchy. The left hates Amazon and Starbucks for union busting. We hate them for ramming pride flags down our throats. Both of us see a cartel of multinational corporations and foreign powers that captured our government and sold our future. They want trust busting, we want a nationalist industrial policy. These are different roads, but it's the same destination. Power must be returned to the people. The number one thing that unites us, the foundation that we must lay first is national sovereignty. Neither the populist left nor the nationalist right can fight for the things we want for as long as our country and our politicians are controlled by Israeli interests and donors. A foreign government has embedded itself so deeply in our political system that our own ambassadors celebrate traders in our embassies. We both know this, and we both can unite on ending it. The left wants Medicare for all. They want climate change. They want student debt cancellation. We want to end abortion. We want to protect the family. We want to restore sovereignty and manufacturing. But here's the hard truth. Both of us cannot have those fights until we reclaim our government from foreign capture. So long as APAC writes legislation and the ADL police speech and Israeli donors fund both parties to the tune of billions, we are not living in a democracy. We are living in an occupied state. Think about this. The same Republican senators who vote for$14 billion in aid to Israel will vote against$12 billion for American infrastructure. The same Democratic congressmen who cry about corporate greed will line up to support whatever military adventure Israel wants. Why is this? Because the donor class has made has made support of Israel the price of admission. You cannot run for dog catcher in this country without kissing the wall. That means the populist left cannot fight for their economic agenda because the money is controlled by the people who dem who demand war spending first. And we cannot fight for our social agenda because the same money demands that we bow to our foreign flag. This is the common ground. We both want our country back. We both want politicians who answer to Toledo, not Tel Aviv. We want a press that can question foreign influence without being smeared as bigots. We both want to be able to say loud and clear that American interests come first without being called anti Semites or isolationists or any of the other slurs they use to shut us up. The establishment fears this convergence more than anything. They can handle left versus right warfare and cultural war nonsense. They cannot handle left right agreement that the game itself is rigged. That is why they will call us both anti Semites and extremists. We cannot allow them to win and we cannot allow them to continue holding our nation hostage. The left wants to build their vision for America and we want to build ours, but neither of us can lift a single brick so long as someone else owns the construction site. That is the realization that changes everything. That is the foundation of what comes next.